That's a very good point Husker and I'm sure both sites can both push each other to make improvements, competition is always good as they say. The existence of Cricistan can only help improve PP and vice versa. One example that readily comes to mind is the outdated look of PP, now I'm not saying this to criticise PP because I designed the current look (of the forums) and colour scheme of PP so I'm not going to bash my own work. However that was 5 years ago!! I'm sure guys like Nauman, Zee and feather will confirm that one of the biggest problems we ALL had when we were at PP was that the homepage has always been very ugly but there was no real motivation to do anything about it. I've heard on the grapevine that after Cricistan launched, PP have started a drive to modernise their site and that includes a brand new homepage which will be launched later this year perhaps as early as the T20 World Cup. When you see the new PP homepage the first thing that will come into your head will be Cricistan. I've heard they're going to have a picture slider and a video slider as well as having a video section on the site itself. They'll probably also have a latest threads box on the homepage like Cricistan does too. That's what I mean by more Pak sites being good for existing sites like PP. So yes Husker, there's no reason whatsoever why both sites cant co-exist and flourish.