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  1. Observer
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    Observer Emerging Player

    Feb 27, 2010
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    Will we make it to the Super eight?

    Teams Mat Won Lost Tied N/R Pts Net RR For Against
    Australia 1 1 0 0 0 2 +1.700 191/20.0 157/20.0
    Pakistan 2 1 1 0 0 2 -0.325 329/40.0 342/40.0
    Bangladesh 1 0 1 0 0 0 -1.050 151/20.0 172/20.0

    A better graphic can be found here:
    Points Table | ICC World Twenty20 2010 | Cricinfo.com

    The only chance is if we end up as the no. 2 team ion our group and most likely Bangladesh will loose to Australia, then no panic - otherwise the Net RR will be deciding for who goes to the Super 8 i.e. PAK or Bangladesh. Here we are again in a better position than Bangladesh. If they are to qualify then they must beat Australia with a considerable margin.
     
  2. Bart
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    By how much / how many wickets should Bangladesh beat Australia to qualify for super 8 in place of Pakistan?
     
  3. Disco Lemonade
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    I think Bangladesh batting first needs to restrict Aussies 8-15 runs less than the target set. Batting second they will have to win the match atleast couple of overs early.

    Not sure though if its accurate.
     
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    sohaib-789 Emerging Player

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    if australia bat 1st bangladesh must chase down the score with 7 balls to spare if they are to qualify for the super 8's.
     
  5. Observer
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    And if Bangladesh bat first they will have to win by at least 8 points.

    This is not an impossible task. On a good day for Bangladesh it could mean disaster for Pakistan. It will be good game to watch.
     
  6. iHammad
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    We are seeded first, so no matter what we will be A1 in we qualify.
     
  7. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    ShokoTolo_LoloMoto Talented

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    I agree with iHammad ... Pakistan will be A1 regardless of how big of a margin Australia beats Bengladesh with.
     
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    Major Cornered Tiger

    Apr 28, 2010
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    wednesdays game is gona be fun to watch.
    It could happen… Pakistan defeated Bangladesh by the rather comfortable margin of 21 runs in their opening match, but ended up losing heavily to Australia, and that 34 run loss means that Bangladesh have a very realistic shot of upstaging the defending champions and giving them a humiliating first round exit. Here is the points table as it stands right now:

    Teams Mat Won Lost Tied N/R Pts Net RR For Against
    Australia 1 1 0 0 0 2 +1.700 191/20.0 157/20.0
    Pakistan 2 1 1 0 0 2 -0.325 329/40.0 342/40.0
    Bangladesh 1 0 1 0 0 0 -1.050 151/20.0 172/20.0

    Simply put, all Bangladesh have to do is defeat Australia while maintaining that they score not less than 12 more runs than they have conceded in total. That gap is currently 21, so if they beat Australia by as low a margin as 9 runs they will end up with a better run rate than Pakistan. Lets take a look at all the possible scenarios:

    1) Bangladesh Bat First: In this case they have to ensure that no matter what they score, Australia lose by a margin of at least 9 runs. Australia in this case would still qualify with a net run rate of 0.65. If however, they manage to defeat Australia by as high a margin as 48 runs, then Pakistan would qualify ahead of Australia on net run rate.

    2) Bangladesh Bat Second: The first assumption is that Australia are either bowled out or bat their full 20 overs. The second assumption is that Bangladesh win by a margin of one run, i.e. they just get over Australia’s score rather than hit a six and win by six or five or less runs. In this case Bangladesh have to chase down whatever Australia score in 113-116 balls (18.5 to 19.2) depending on what Australia score (I’ve taken realistic ranges from Australia scoring 90 to 250), to get a higher net run rate than Pakistan. For these same ranges in scores, Bangladesh would have to achieve their target in roughly 7.3 to 11.2 overs (varying from 90 to 200) to push Australia’s nrr below Pakistan, which is much riskier for them and unlikely to happen.

    So as you can see, if Bangladesh do win, they stand an excellent chance of qualifying ahead of Pakistan as long as they don’t win by a very small margin. Which is why it was crucial for the defending champions to score as close to Australia’s score as possible yesterday, so that Australia would not take the chance of losing to Bangladesh by a small margin themselves since that might have ended their aspirations. The match on the 11th of May assumes critical importance!
     

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