PCB fines Umar Akmal for late night outing during Australia ODIs

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    Pakistan cricket’s enfant terrible Umar Akmal has been fined 20 per cent of his match fee and has also received an official reprimand following his late-night outing in Dubai after the fourth ODI against Australia.

    The Pakistan Cricket Board said on Monday that team manager, Talat Ali had held a hearing at which Umar pleaded guilty and also apologised for his actions.

    A video clip emerged on social media showing Umar having a late night outing after Pakistan had lost the fourth ODI in Dubai, following which a debate stirred on whether the batsman had shown indiscipline or his personal life should be respected.

    The batsman, who has had a history of run-ins with the establishment and disciplinary issues, was recalled for the ODI series against Australia after showing good form in the Pakistan Super League after having spent nearly two-and-half years on the sidelines.

    Head coach Mickey Arthur, who had a run-in with Umar in Lahore last year, has said that while Umar’s attitude has improved, he needs to work more on his fitness.

    PCB managing director Wasim Khan said: “I am glad that Umar has realised his mistake and has accepted and apologised for his actions, which were clearly unprofessional and in no way can be ignored or overlooked.

    “The PCB expects a high level of professionalism and commitment from its players, and this action is a reiteration and timely reminder that any indiscipline shall not be tolerated or accepted.”

    https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...n-vs-australia-odis-dubai/article26704404.ece
     
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    Here's the video

     
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    Hahahahahaha dude knows how to party /s
     
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    I am not sure if this is the actual video in the night club but seriously - during the day time, these players are the same who perform sajdas in the ground after hitting a 50 against Afghanistan.
     
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    If it’s his personal time he can do whatever he wants.
     
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    That would make sense if he could actually do his job, which is to bat.
     
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    please drop this a hole for good. if for nothing else, for not having the common sense not to film teenage girl like selfie videos that incriminated himself. what a total, utter, complete moron.
     
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    His private life is his private life. Why should we care. What he's doing looks tame compared to the sort of stuff the 90s cricketers used to get up to and they're all maulvi saabs now.
     
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    its not the 90s and if we were talking about who is the running for becoming a molvi Saab you might have an argument, but we're not.

    he's got a history of disciplinary issues and in his first tour back he broken a curfew without informing management of his whereabouts. thats enough, and it's sufficient. he might even have been allowed to go had he told them what he was doing.

    what he actually did, whether exchanging bodily fluids, catching venerial diseases, betting against his team in a casino - all of the private life he should be entitled to - is not really the issue, is it? and the only reason anyone cares is because the idiot posted some cheesy selfie video on social media, because hes a moron.
     
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    His performances are also tame compared to the 90s cricketers.

    I dont see the need to constantly compare with the previous generations of cricketers. Some of our original test match players used to cycle to the ground before a days play. Would you advocate our current players doing that?
     
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    dont care what anyone do in their personal time.

    But he is fined because during the on going series.

    hopefully he will get to party a lot more after getting dropped permanently from the team.

    #AkmalsOut
     
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    so during a business tour, an employee breaking away and having some fun in a bar is professional ?
     
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    I don’t have a problem with what he does in his private life, but this is during the tour as @Patriot mentioned above and his performances are one of the biggest reasons we lost 5-0. Especially after being given an opportunity to prove himself after an absence from the national side. He isn’t Freddie Flintoff.
     
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    Lmao I just clicked the video. What the hell is he doing???
     
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    This is true.
    But if you are playing a series then it means you are on your job. The place, where you earn your bread and butter. So you better follow the rules as per your contract.

    If you want to party, drink and get laid? Then, take a vacation from your work to go where ever you want, and do whatever you want to do, AT YOUR OWN expense.

    This chutiyapa of sneaking from curfew to go out late night and party is really the work of sissies and fags.

    I think one should, man up, and do all this crap in pvt vacation trips.
     
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    Nobody is owned by their employer 24/7, even if you are working away. For example, if an employee is sent to work abroad for 2 weeks by their employer. That doesn't mean that the employee must be working non stop for the whole 2 weeks without any sleep or personal time.

    When players are on a tour. They are required to play matches, keep up their fitness schedules, attend training sessions, press conferences and promotional duties. Any time they have outside that is their personal time where they can sleep, read a book, watch the TV, go for dinner, meet friends or do anything (legal) they want to do with their own personal time. Just like everyone else is.

    Too often we forget that sports people are also regular human beings who are doing a job for which they get paid.
     
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    Yes...100%. Consultants travel for work all the time and get wasted off their asses at night. As long as they show up to work on time the next day, no one has any issues.

    Breaking curfew is another thing, but...why is there a curfew?
     
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    so they could get appropriate rest and be rejuvenated for the next day game - and also not lose their focus.

    Their jobs are mostly physical - and appropriate rest is a must, otherwise, clubbing and late night parties don't help rebuild the broken cells.

    IMO, if there is no forced curfew, a big majority of them numb nuts is dumb enough not to carry on himself, and won't be able to show up on work, sober and alert.

    Try it. Give them a free hand, and see what you will get.
     
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    They are also adults and should realize that they need proper rest and sleep to perform well. If they don't, they get kicked out of the team. Don't need a curfew for that.
     
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    laughable.
    Try it.
    Give them a free hand and let them expose their "adulthood".

    These curfews are imposed after years and years of experience where we have learned that we are a typical "Danday ki qome" no matter if we are in Pak national team or a regular citizen.

    These are mostly jahil paindu type players with no proper education, no street smartness, no ability to effective communication and zero interpersonal skills. It's very unfortunate and sad, as I write it, but that's a fact.
     
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    no they are not allowed to do so on business trips

    i dont know which companies you have seen do such stuff

    regarding our team, we hav had so much scandals happen in the past so the management is now treating them as school trip children and monitoring them strictly and very rightly so.
     
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    yes, going to concerts and partying is proper sleep and rest.

    good one.
     
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    you can debate the rules but not the consequences akmal is facing here

    btw these rules were created because of these people doings in the past fyi
     
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    Have you considered that maybe the opposite is the problem? Baby them so that they never actually learn any real responsibility and expect to be told when to show up where?

    Perhaps that's what the team needs - hard and fast rules with strict guidelines - but culturally, I do not agree with this approach. I believe that if you give some free reigns, those that care about the team / performing well, will step up and ensure that they're doing the right thing to make themselves successful.

    This is a categorically incorrect statement. I used to be a consultant and it is well known that you can do whatever you want outside of working hours. Like @Mercenary said, no company owns their employee 24/7. Business trips are business trips, but we are allowed to go dinners / strip clubs / bars whatever we want once our client work is finished. All major companies in the business world allow this.

    Please stop making stuff up to make some useless point.

    Idk what you're saying, I never said going to concerts and partying is proper sleep and rest. Perhaps take a hand at reading comprehension so you can better understand what people are saying in their posts.
     
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    Consultant smh
     
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    We can not apply the consultants/employees analogy to cricketers entirely.

    These professional cricketers need to be supervised on tours considering the fixers aspect too and also our history of getting approached by them. Surely nobody wants to see another Mazhar episode or videos where jackets are being exchanged.

    That Akon concert was at a local nightclub btw... and all such events never get over earlier than 2-3am. And what was he doing over there all alone... or was he alone? Why didn't he inform? He's surely familiar with the team protocols.
     
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    If we give our players a free hand they will sell Pakistan, these players are zebras walking infront of cheetahs they can easily be trapped by fixers for example the fixer may pay a woman to make friendship with that player that’s how they get close up and then with that they are exposed to drugs and match fixing. The problem is that in Pakistan there is a strict environment so then all of a sudden the freedom makes them happy. Umer Akmal bless him is a bacha anyways.
     
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    Allah maaf karay iskay sath jo party karta hoga wo bhi aisa hee koi hoga. These guys are made of plastic.
     
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    IMO, you cannot fix the problem by this method where you expect them to learn it by the hard way.
    They will keep tripping over and over again like Asif, till their careers are over.

    The problem does not lie in these players - the problem lies in our culture and social norms where these players are brought up. Our society, generally, raises minds that are weak, dumb and corrupt by default.

    So it's for their own good that they are treated like this.
     
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    They tell kids that corruption happens lool.
     
  35. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Umer Akmal got a bargain of a deal for "minding his business in his pvt time."

    Not so for Sri Lankan captain

    "Sri Lanka's Test captain Dimuth Karunaratne has been fined USD 7500 (LKR 1.3 million approx), by Sri Lanka Cricket, following his drink driving episode, which was a violation of his player contract. Karunaratne's fine is the equivalent of the match fee he would receive for one Test."
     
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    Agreed.

    Mazhar was the agent of the players. They weren't out at a nightclub getting seduced by a femme fatale.

    You can't keep people in gilded cages. They are adults you have to treat them like adults because even if you lock them up 24/7 you will never control it.

    Irfan is a good example. He never used to leave his hotel room on away tours and stayed within a small group of friends or family when around the team. Yet despite all that he ended up getting an approach which he then never reported and paid the price for.

    If you are locking up players in the hotel room then you are making them sitting ducks for fixers who know exactly when and where they are. And a bored player stuck in a hotel room is more likely to talk to a random stranger.
     
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    Are you serious? You're comparing drink driving which is a crime in every country with going to a concert which isn't a crime anywhere except 'maybe' the middle east.
     
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    Yes, definitely the comparison is not a balanced one; however, the crime was committed in his pvt time - he was not at work.
    By the converse logic, as long as he performs well on the ground, the board should not be concerned with whatever the players do in their pvt time. No?

    But then again, the trio committed a "crime", for which they got jailed but PCB didn't take any action against them for breaching their contract with PCB.
     
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    I suppose next time theres players bring the whole country into disrepute, and again risk pakistan being thrown out of the icc, we should just shrug it off because its just adults learning life the hard way? are the examples of the trio, danish, sharjeel, jamshed etc that far away that this isn't a real risk that should be managed?

    astonishing.
     
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    You will never stop that from happening, even if you keep them under lock and key 24/7. The trio were groomed by their own agent.
     

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