ICC World Cup 2019 | Day 18 |PAK v IND| 16th Jun 2019 |Match Thread

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  1. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Would you go with 4 pacers and Shadab against India or 3 pacers 2 spinners? Thats a little bit of a tricky decision for me. I cant decide but I am double minded./ There is a risk with going with 4 pacers against India on batting wickets like these and there is risk of going with 2 spinners as well as india play spin best!! So whats your thoughts?
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    1. Imam
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Hafeez
    5. Sarfraz
    6. Malik
    7. Imad / should have been Fahim Ashraf as he is an allrounder naam ka hi sahi
    8. Shadab
    9. Hassan
    10. Wahab
    11. Amir
    Reserves: Shaheen (should have been Junaid), Hasnain (should have been Fahim), Asif (should have been Abid), Harris Sohail.

    I would have wanted Fahim Ashraf opening the bowling with Amir, with Hassan and Wahab Riaz to follow and then in spin department you could have part timers Harris Sohail, Hafeez, Shoaib Malik and Fakhar Zaman.
     
  2. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Imad aur Shadab ko theek thak kut lagaye ga india rest assured!!
     
  3. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Against India, I would have wanted this playing 11:

    1. Imam
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Harris
    5. Hafeez
    6. Malik
    7. Sarfraz
    8. Fahim
    9. Wahab
    10. Hassan
    11. Amir
    Bowling:

    Amir 5 Fahim 3 Hassan 5 Wahab 5 Fahim 2
    20
    Amir 2 Harris 7 Fahim 2 Hassan 2 Wahab 2.
    35
    Hafeez 3 Malik 2.
    40
    Amir 2 Fahim 2 Hassan 3 Wahab 3.
    50
     
  4. Mohsin
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    I just hope we're realistically still in the running/have wins under our belts by the time this game comes around
     
  5. Fireworks11
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    Game of the tournament.

    It’s gonna be a crazy day.
     
  6. mohsin88ali
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    India play both spin and pace with equal ease. Unless you got accurate pace (which we don't)
    Now, Hassnain is a rookie kid and Shaheen is way out of form.
    So, i would go with three pacers, two spinners+hafeez.
    My XI

    Imam
    Fakher
    Baber
    Sarfaraz
    Hafeez
    Asif
    Imad
    Shadab
    Hassan
    Amir
    Wahab


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    Recipe for a 450+ score.....

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  8. Disco Lemonade
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    Where is the match? Depends on the pitch and field really on how we would perform. India is a much better team by far. So they start favorites.
     
  9. Don Quixote
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    Don Quixote Whispering Death

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    I am not interested in this mediocre team at all , to be honest. Dont have the same passion for cricket. The rivalry with India feels non existent to be honest.


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  10. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    What build up?
    Muu ki khaani parreygi - let’s not get over the moon.
     
  11. Shahzad.Firdous
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    There are different opinions about a particular situation. One view is that you need to be brave enough to win big games like these. Another opinion is that you need to be balanced in attack and defense to win a match. And one view is that if India has any weakness in batting, its traditionally against the pacers!! India have struggled in the past against pacers. What happens is that india go wild in first 15 overs and as the shine goes off the cherry, they start to lose wickets to these pacers! This is the only decision they have to make 4 pacers 1 spinner or 3 pacers 2 spinners. Problem is that they havent selected a pace allrounder they dropped Fahim Ashraf so i dont think they can select another specialist pacer they might have to go for one of Shaheen or Hasnain if they want a 4th pacer and they are not performing too brilliantly. With Fahim and Hassan, we had advantage as they can hold bat plus Amir and Wahab can also hold the bat and if you drop both spinners and pick Harris Sohail into the 11 you have batting depth as well with Sarfraz coming in at 7.
     
  12. Shahzad.Firdous
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    450+ score to waise bhi bana hai you need batting to chase it and i am helping them by giving them batting depth with Amir at 11.
     
  13. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    To win against India, Pakistan must do the unthinkable.

    And one of the unthinkable is to reverse the batting order by flipping it upside down.

    Amir should open with Hasnain with Wahab at one down.

    This is to encounter Bumrah and it will also catch Kohli off guard and by surprise.
    He will be flabbergasted as all his Pre-match planning will be nullified.
     
  14. Dare2Dream
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    I hope they don't play Imad for that game, he will get hammered. Need to go with a pace attack with Hasnain in the mix.
     
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    Check out my xi, it has Wahab at 11.


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  16. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Imam/Fakhar is not a good opening idea.
    We surely need a left hand right hand combination to continuously disrupt and frustrate the fielders, and keep making the bowler adjust his line and length several times in every over.

    Malik or hafeez should open with a lefty.
    There should be no fix spot for anyone in the top order and we should send in, the left hander when a left handed batsman gets out. And a right hander when a right handed batsman gets out.

    You have Fakhar, Imam, Haris and Imad to juggle with the right handers.
     
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    Very much likely, no interest left now:(
     
  18. Shahzad.Firdous
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    I would select following 11 against india from available players:

    1. Imam
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Sarfraz
    5. Hafeez
    6. Asif
    7. Shadab
    8. Amir
    9. Hassan
    10. Wahab
    11. Hasnain
    Amir Hassan 1-9
    Hasnain Wahab 10-17
    Shadab 7 Hafeez 4 Amir 3 18-31
    Hasnain Hassan 32-37
    Shadab Wahab 38-43
    Amir Hassan 44-47
    Wahab Hasnain 48-50

    Amir 10 Hassan 9 Hasnain 8 Wahab 9
    Shadab 10
    Hafeez 4
     
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    7th time lucky? Ya'Allah ye mauka bhi zaya na jaye
     
  20. KingOfDoosra
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    What's this obsession with India?

    We have about 3-4 matches before we play India, lets focus on winning them first.

    Jab bharat aaye ga to uss ko bhi dekh lenge
     
  21. Shahzad.Firdous
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    1. Harris Sohail
    2. Fakhar Zaman
    3. Babar Azam
    4. Hafeez
    5. Sarfraz
    6. Malik / Asif
    7. Asif / Imad / Hasnain
    8. Shadab
    9. Wahab
    10. Hassan
    11. Amir
     
  22. Shahzad.Firdous
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    More like:

    1. Hafeez
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Malik
    5. Sarfraz
    6. Asif
    7. Shadab
    8. Wahab
    9. Hassan
    10. Amir
    11. Hasnain
    Fahim should have been part of the squad as Hasnain cant bat and we need 4 pacers against India!!
     
  23. Disco Lemonade
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    looking at the pitch yesterday and day before, spinners will be the key?
     
  24. Shahzad.Firdous
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    India traditionally struggle against pace. Spin ke saath to khilwaar karte hein india wale so better bowl pace to them!!
     
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    I would love to give that new ball to Hasnain to partner Amir against India instead of Hassan Ali as Hassan Ali's pace is a bit down! Hassan Ali needs to work on his pace if he wants to be successful with that new ball otherwise he can bowl with that old ball. Fahim Ashraf was a better option than Hassan Ali with that new ball and if we needed to pick 4 pacers like we do against India right now, then Amir, Fahim, Wahab and Hassan would have been my pace attack and Fahim is supposedly an allrounder whereas Hasnain is a specialist fast bowler!!

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    Infact, I would be tempted to drop Hassan and pick Shaheen in his place and play both Shaheen and Hasnain against India.

    1. Hafeez
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Malik
    5. Sarfraz
    6. Asif
    7. Shadab
    8. Wahab
    9. Amir
    10. Shaheen
    11. Hasnain
    Amir 5- Hasnain 4 1-9
    Shaheen 4- Wahab 4 10-17
    Shadab 7 - Hafeez 4 - Malik 2 18-30
    Amir 3 Hasnain 3 31-36
    Shaheen 3 Wahab 3 37 -42
    Shadab 3 Wahab 1 Amir 1 43-47
    Wahab 2 Amir 1 48-50

    Amir 10 Wahab 10 Shadab 10
    Shaheen 7 Hasnain 7
    Hafeez 4 Malik 2

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  27. Mohammed Bilal
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    I feel Pakistan can beat India. Pakistan can make 340. Babar can play Chahal, Bumrah, Bhuva, it's just Kuldeep he needs to be careful but Kuldeep is out of form anyways. Bat first. Fakhar and Imam just need to stay on the crease for 13 overs then Babar and rest can just go through the motions. Remember India has 4 bowlers. Pakistan must keep an eye on Kuldeep. If you play out Bumrah he will come back at the end. Pakistan can win if they don't wilt under pressure.
     
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    Bumrah, sounds like a homosexual superhero from the 80s
     
  29. Mohammed Bilal
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    Agree.

    Terrible batsman make him look good. Rabada, Cummins have more skill. Bumrah has got awkward action and so gets awkward bounce. If you are good player on back foot you should be able to take him apart.
     
  30. Bilal123
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    Just go in and bat with a purpose. Stick to your roles. Everyone should aim to put a price on their wicket and play positive shots. Play according to the ball and no premeditated stuff.

    If the same team plays as vs England then I can see Babar, Sarfraz, Hafeez and Malik playing spin very well. Should be able to beat this weak Indian side
     
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    absolutely useless advice.
    This team and every player in it has heard and listened to this crap at least 1 million times. And it does not work.

    Our best bet to get the best of these guys is to tell them.

    "Yo niggahs, consider this game is already lost.
    Now you got nothing else to lose, so go all guns blazing.
    Don't be scared of anything and try to hurt them as much as you can before dying."
     
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    ^^^lol thats a cross between pacino in any given Sunday and leonidas in 300....with a smidgen of thelma and louise.
     
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    I want to see bowling partnerships from pakistan. the middle overs are crucial. i want to see below partnerships in the middle.

    Amir and Shaadab. Hafeez and Wahab (when reversing), Hasan and Hafeez (when not reversing).
     
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    Amir - Wahab was a brilliant partnership v ENG

    Defense and Attack



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    Shahzad bhai... looking happy in snap.
    As for the team against India, I will have Imam at all cost. He’s mentally tough, likely to do well in pressure match.
     
  38. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Thank you! This is 3 yrs back. I have lost a lot of weight since then!
    Yes, initially i thought to drop imam but i think its impossible to drop imam right now! There is always a danger of being shot for 100 without imamulhaq! He provides that safety we need against new ball! Seeing off new ball is 25 per cent the match itself!

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    In these conditions!

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    1. Imam
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Harris Sohail
    5. Hafeez
    6. Sarfraz
    7. Imad / Shaheen
    8. Shadab
    9. Wahab
    10. Amir
    11. Hasnain
    Dont bowl Shaheen with that new ball in these conditions I would say. Give new ball to Hasnain to partner Amir.

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