Your thoughts on the Trent Bridge Test Match (July 2010)

Salman was left with little choice after the horror show from Akmal, dani and gul. Those 3 should be ashamed of themselves. Well done Amir and may be Asif too.

simply put horribel keeping from kamran and clear lbw not given against morgan ruined r day

We used 8 bowlers . . !

Well if Kamran wasn't an incompetent clown then maybe we could have had a better day.

First it was the dolly of a catch which he dropped. I mean, how can an international keeper drop a catch like that?
Then came the refferal; stupid stupid referral of when Pietersen allegedly edged it behind. He had the best position from everyone else to see if Kevin had edged it and yet he was still stupid enough to let Butt and Asif ask for the review. This then cost us when the fool, Da Silva, didn't give a plumb shout of Morgan off Maliks bowling. If we hadn't wasted that review maybe we would have the Morgan decision reversed. He also fluffed a simple stumping off Kaneria's bowling. He really needs to be chucked out. Incompetent fool.

Kaneria again was very poor. I don't know what's wrong with him. He's played 60+ tests and still doesn't know that you need to be patient whilst bowling in Tests. He had to keep bowling a 'hit me' bowl in each over to release the pressure. Along with Gul, both didn't back up the great job Aamer and Asif had done at the start.

However, credit must go to Morgan and Collingwood, Morgan especially. He really showed some solid temperament along with some class to form a brilliant partnership with Collingwood; which may have put to rest any chances of us winning the game. Morgan made the most of his luck and made Pakistan pay with an excellent 100. He really does have a good future ahead of him.

I'm hoping tomorrow we can get some early wickets and restrict them below 400. It's going to be very tough though seen as though our bowlers have a tough time of finishing off the tail.

I hate these udrs system.

DIN manhoos shuru hua aur manhoosiat se khatam hua!!

from beginning bad tone was set by Kamran Akmal....

you miss hard chances,,,, but dude how the hell do u miss EASY CHANCES!!!

1. Stumping of collingwood when he was half way down

2. Waist height edge that came into your hands!!

have some sense like afridi and retire bcz u r not cut out for it Mr. Akmal..... it takes a big man for to do that... maybe ur not that either

why make him the vice captain when he happens to be the most inconsistent player ( in terms of keeping ) .. baffles me .. ! :S

lets jus hope we start of well tomorrow and get england out for 400 - 450 :S

The most demoralising thing that can happen now, is if the remaining 6 wickets tomorrow don't fall, resulting in a declaration and subsequent innings defeat, that will set the tone for the series. I'm confident Aamir, Asif and Gul - much improved - will finish the English off during the morning session.

Again, it was a similar situation for Pakistan - Deja Kamran - as his imcompetence; the dropped catch of Strauss, and then more potently in the middle of the current partnership, when Collingwood was dropped on a stumping opportunity, not to mention the earlier plum LBW of Morgan - again thanks in no small part to the blind man behind the stumps-, who can't differentiate between bat-pad or an edge- which subsequently cost the team the remaining allocation of URDS appeals.

Had Strauss been taken, or as has proved to be more costly, the stumping of Collingwood been taken, England would have again been on the racks and a sub-300 dismisssal was very much on the cards, instead we'll have to again see the Pakistan batsmen collapse as would a jenga tower during an earthquake.

Kamran will seriously have to redeem himself with the bat, which dosesn't seem all that likely, and his brother will have to realise he's playing a Test Match, otherwise this game could finish sooner than Headingley. The consensus right now is Akmal Snr. be dropped, and should his younger sibling fail in this test, he should join him.

It's imperative at all cost that that the batsmen allow the bowlers ample rest, otherwise the bowlers will fatigue - and an injury to either of the strike duo will be catastrophic.

Man rally round the pakistanis!!! Why all these pessimistic response! Pak havent lost yet! I have a feeling Pak batsmen will come big! Rally round the Pakistanis!

94.5
Mohammad Aamer to Morgan, no run, dropped! Farhat lets a regulation chance to slip go begging! Aamer did well to find the edge of Morgan's bat once again. This time the edge carried to the slips, where Farhat had set himself in the perfect position to take it... but didn't! That could be another costly lapse for Pakistan, and one really feels for Aamer

hey guyz how much u reckon pak will score in first inning??...... i think somewhere 270....

England scored 354 which included a partnership of 219 runs between Collingwood and Morgan. This means England lost other 9 wickets for 135 runs!

Broad testing kaptaan saab in his 1st over. Huge LBW appeal and then a nasty hit on the helmet. ))

interestingly or bizarrely i shud say pakistan haven;t crossed 300 in this english summer ..

against australia in the 2 tests .. and here its unlikely they'll even cross 200 ..
the problem apart from technique being the inxperience .. and the seniors arent helping ..

earlier if the openers performed for us ( when we had inzy, younis , yousuf ) ,, it was somewht a bonus for us cos our prime batsmen were to follow after 'em ..

but now our openers happen to b our premier batsmen .. and u kno they cant really score big in such conditions ...

looks really hard ( impossible mayb ) to save a test from here on .. why ? even if pakistan save the follow on .. suppose they trail by 190 .. and get out england for 100 ..i still doubt em(pakistani batsmen) to chase 291 ..

anyways .. its pakistan cricket team .. i hope they prove me wrong

The personal issues which Ijaz Butt has with players are now starting to hurt the team. I am all for the inclusion of younger players but how are they suppose to improve without anyone to guide them on the field. Waqar can only do his best off the field but once on it, it’s a different situation. I don’t expect the likes of Salman, Malik, Kamran who are suppose to be the experienced ones to guide them when in all honesty both Malik and Kamran are fighting for their positions.

Let’s look back at the Sri Lanka tour were Fawad Alam made his debut with a wonderful century, he was guided by an experienced head (Younis Khan) who had seen it all before to insure Fawad made it through to make the magical three figures.

Last but not least Nassir Hussians comments on the Pakistani batting

On todays performance he probably is.

A case of deja vu as far as Pakistan are concerned. The bowlers get them back in to the gme, only for the batsmen to capitulate as usual.

Man i am nnot happy with ahzar ali today. Why the hell will he ask umar akmal weather he should ask for review or not, u.akmal is not the on hiting the ball ahzar is , so he should had taken the review.

OP puts it nicely. )

Totally agree with you Nadeem bhai. You can't just thrust youngsters into the team when there is no proper experience player there which can be a role model to them on how to play in these conditions. Youth needs guidence, and I really doubt if Butt, Kamran and Malik can guide these youngsters when they themselves seem clueless at the crease.

Another example of that was when Umar Akmal made his cracking maiden centuries, in both Test and ODIs, he batted alongside Yousuf and Younis which definitely helped him and had a positive effect on his strokeplay.

This clearly proves that youth needs guidence.

Umar Gul played a fantastic innings, made up for his bowling, unfortunate to end on a run out.

Don't ask! I don't want to get banned of this forum for swearing!

Get ready for many more such days. If they don't start thinking with their heads, situations are going to get worse.
1- I wish Ijaz butt was among 152 passengers on the plane or may this flood somehow take his legs up in the air. I don't know how else we can get rid of this moron.
2- You have to bring Younis and Yousuf back. You can't simply throw 2 youngsters at number 3 & 4 positions in the most difficult conditions to bat. Let the young guys learn from yousuf and younis experience. They are avergaing more than 50 in tests. Not too many in the world have this average forget about Pakistan.
3- They could have done world of good to Muhammed Irfan if he had been included in the team as a 3rd seamer. His height & pace would have been perfect for English conditions.
4- You always need specialist wicket keeper for test cricek. if he can bat, good enough but his batting should not keep him as a wicket keeper. If 1 to 6 can't score trust me wicket keeper at number 7 won't do any wonders.
5- Danish Kaneria is from harbajhan Family. They both are playing international cricket for accidental reasons. Abdul Rehman can do a lot better than this 1-150 leg spinner. Even I can do better..na sorry...I meant my grand mom.
6- Why is shoaib Malik still in test team? Has he ever got a 50 outside subcontinent?

Don't u have any respect for someone. I can't believe u can say such a thing. Y shouldn't u be on the plane, y shouldn't ur legs be broken.

Many ppl dont like him, but they dont say these kind of things.

Irfan is tall, but bowlers like tanveer ahamad deserve more chances then he does. tanveer has been playing for the last 9 years, ending up at the top 10 position but never got call up, but now he finnily does. Irfan has jsut played one domestic season, he still has to play a little more games to get in the team.


Being spiner u dont get wickets very easily like pace bowlers. I think we have been watchign ammer and asif take wickets realy fast that now we want kaneria to bowl like that. SPiners start taking wickets after 40th over.

I apologise. I know I was harsh with my words.
His one man show is just destryoing Pakistan Cricket. If he was making smart decesions, I would have no problem with him being a ONE MAN show guy. He literally does not deserve to be any where near word " CRICKET MANAGEMENT".
Anyways, I apologise.

I guess we have completley different cricketing brain....
If playing more domestic cricket be the the criteria for selection than Let's take M. Amer out of the attack.
I said, you need specialist wicket keeper for test cricket- Akmal's performance as a wicket keeper in test cricket is horrific. You drop a catch- you let the whole team down in test cricket.
And I know kaneria is not Warna and he can't be Warna even in 7 lives but but 171-1 in test cricket...huh !!!

i agree with ya on kamran. But he always get his place back by playing good in t20.

I think danish is not good in bowling with dukes

when is the nxt test...i have given up on this one????

Guys simple as ABC... Younis and Yousuf ahould be immediately brought back. Investing in Youngsters is good but not throwing 2 new guys in number 3 and 4. If anything we are destroying the confidence of these youngsters. lets forget the past and move on. if it helps Mr Butt than i on behalf of all Paki fans apologise to you if you have been hurt in the past but please Mr Butt bring back Yousuf and Younis immediately

What makes you think next test or remain test will be any better? I think, they will be worse because either Amer or Asif will get injured or will get tired because the amount of bowling they have had to do on this tour.

Fri Aug 6 - Tue Aug 10
2nd Test - England v Pakistan
Edgbaston, Birmingham


Wed Aug 18 - Sun Aug 22
3rd Test - England v Pakistan
Kennington Oval, London


Thu Aug 26 - Mon Aug 30
4th Test - England v Pakistan
Lord's, London

Looks like we will see a massive change in the line-up come the 2nd test. Fans in Pakistan will be looking to criticize the PCB for sending in 2 youngsters in at 3 and 4. Akmal will be heavily scrutinized for his keeping, Kaneria will most likely not play a further part in the series and depending on Malik's score in the second innings we might even see Hameed take his place. Tanvir Ahmed might also be given the go ahead in case one of the bowlers wants a rest or is injured. Just my opinion, you never know with Pakistani cricket.

i jus saw a forum on some site ( DISSED AT AKMAL BROTHERS ) :

" THE KHATMAL BROTHERS "

LOOL ..

ANYWAYS ... today;s day was horrific .. i dont blame umar amin n azhar ali .. they're too inxperienced for such situations ..
u kno wht ? had they been played at 3 n 4 in subcontinent conditions still many might have raised eye brows and asked tht why such difficult batting positions r being given to rookies like ém .. sending em at 3 n 4 in english conditions is pathetic .. anyways .. lets hope for the best ^_^ ( we need either yousuf or yunis for the 2nd test )

I wanted to scream my HEAD OFF!!!!



we all will be blood pressure mareez soon

Gul's interview pretty much sums it up;

Sky Sports | Video | Cricket | Gul finds his rhythm

the problem was that the players were tired after ffielding. They should had send in gul and ammer as openers)

i think they should make ammer play the next game, if they lose rest for teh other two till the one days