We are an allrounder short.

[Big Daddy]

4 bowler theory is us not. if 5 outright batsmen cant score then 6th wont churn the midnight oil either. Already our keeper is an established bat hence a bowling allrounder is clutch, lets order that for the main course. Also whilst we are at it, lets order a new coach for appetizers and for dessert we want a captain that is not mayo whipped.

[zeenix]

The underlying thought behind the 6 batsmen theory is the weakiness of our batsmen, while at the same time, the quality of our bowlers. I believe they read the pitch wrong. It wasn't for the seamers.

[Kashif]

The issue is, we never have had any real strong candidates for this role. I wish Afridi changed his mind.

[the_game]

I think we would have been fine had the third bowler been Gul. Really. Playing with Rauf was a big mistake.

[ALbIe]

nope we are an allrounder short

[Rizzy]

Wahab seems to be a genuine all rounder. Just needs a little more work on his batting and he could take the Razzaq role.

[Pak Fan]

Let's talk about the world cup (ODIs). In the bowling department, we are definitely week since Aamer left. In batting i think we will be able to make it only because of the fact that our team is already packed with all-rounders. But we have all-rounders with mediocre batting talent and mediocre bowling talent which is way both areas look so weak at the moment. What we are lacking is a support strike bowler for shoaib. I mean, the people who have a defined role in our team and who deserve to be on there is obviously Shoaib Akhter, Gul and Ajmal, but Wahab's spot is up for grabs. If anyone wants Gul out, they are judging pretty harshly. He almost single-handedly won us the 2 odis we won in England. If you don't agree, than look up the matches. A 4 and 6 wicket innings in points when all was lost. He is highly under-appreciated, and i think it would do him some confidence if his spot wasnt under threat.
Ajmal is a pretty consistent bowler and he's served us very well for the last 2 years. If you disagree, than you probably have a worse short term memory loss problem than our selectors. Thats the problem with us Pakistanis is that we dont persist when things are going rough for a player. They need our support. Sure he hasnt been performing very well for the last few months, but he should be given the chance to prove himself, again and again if neccesary.
If you break down the team than we have all-rounders in Hafeez, Riaz, Afridi and Razzaq, which is just too much. We need a defined, good bowler from one of them, and Riaz doesnt fit the bill. He has neither pace, swing, or any sort of movement until the death, and gul has already established himself as that bowler. We need someone to replace him, who can take wickets, and most of all, put pressure on the batsmen. I think Afridi and Razzaq arent going anywhere, they will remain on the team. Razaaq is past his prime in bowling, but he still has lots to offer in batting. Afridi is a true all-rounder. He can bat decently enough, but he is also mostly a reliable wicket taking bowler. I think they should both stay.
PAKISTAN FOR THE WIN

[afridi_66]

Originally Posted by Pak Fan

Let's talk about the world cup (ODIs). In the bowling department, we are definitely week since Aamer left. In batting i think we will be able to make it only because of the fact that our team is already packed with all-rounders. But we have all-rounders with mediocre batting talent and mediocre bowling talent which is way both areas look so weak at the moment. What we are lacking is a support strike bowler for shoaib. I mean, the people who have a defined role in our team and who deserve to be on there is obviously Shoaib Akhter, Gul and Ajmal, but Wahab's spot is up for grabs. If anyone wants Gul out, they are judging pretty harshly. He almost single-handedly won us the 2 odis we won in England. If you don't agree, than look up the matches. A 4 and 6 wicket innings in points when all was lost. He is highly under-appreciated, and i think it would do him some confidence if his spot wasnt under threat.
Ajmal is a pretty consistent bowler and he's served us very well for the last 2 years. If you disagree, than you probably have a worse short term memory loss problem than our selectors. Thats the problem with us Pakistanis is that we dont persist when things are going rough for a player. They need our support. Sure he hasnt been performing very well for the last few months, but he should be given the chance to prove himself, again and again if neccesary.
If you break down the team than we have all-rounders in Hafeez, Riaz, Afridi and Razzaq, which is just too much. We need a defined, good bowler from one of them, and Riaz doesnt fit the bill. He has neither pace, swing, or any sort of movement until the death, and gul has already established himself as that bowler. We need someone to replace him, who can take wickets, and most of all, put pressure on the batsmen. I think Afridi and Razzaq arent going anywhere, they will remain on the team. Razaaq is past his prime in bowling, but he still has lots to offer in batting. Afridi is a true all-rounder. He can bat decently enough, but he is also mostly a reliable wicket taking bowler. I think they should both stay.
PAKISTAN FOR THE WIN

Wahab bowls at 140+, is a more reliable batsman than gul
Saeed Ajmal needs to try to spin the ball more so he can be more dangerous
Can't wait to see his new delivary at the world cup
best 11;
hafeez
ahmed shahzad
younis
u.akmal(keeper)
misbah
afridi
razzak
wahab
gul
akhtar
ajmal/rehman

[shahrukh619]

Originally Posted by afridi_66

Wahab bowls at 140+, is a more reliable batsman than gul
Saeed Ajmal needs to try to spin the ball more so he can be more dangerous
Can't wait to see his new delivary at the world cup
best 11;
hafeez
ahmed shahzad
younis
u.akmal(keeper)
misbah
afridi
razzak
wahab
gul
akhtar
ajmal/rehman

let me remind u that wahab is bowler first, he is no allrounder, even if scores a hundred he will still be judge by his bowling. U.akmal is just a keeper a t20, he is not full time yet, and he wont be. He just started keeping, and its not easy to keep, till now u.akmal has given twice 4 byes and missed a run out.

[ManHOOS]

thats why afridi badly wants sohail tanvir in side and afridi said in his interview that he is opening coz kami is not there and we have razzaq and sohal tanvir down the order but POOR inti dont listen to him and sohail tanvir is left in pakistan performing brilliantly in quad e azam trophy CHEERZ

[Pak Fan]

Hopefully Razzaq isnt going anywhere, he won us a few matches single-handedly this year. The few matches that we did win in, he played in instrumental part to help us get there. I really do hope they dont get rid of him. His bowling is not up to par, but I think he makes up for it well enough in his batting. Maybe he should consider taking a batsmen only role? He really is not a classy player, but he's the type of player who keeps a cool head in any situation. I think he deserves selection for another two years inshallah. If anyone thinks he is living on past glory, you are pretty wrong. He helps us win a match every so often COMPLETELY on his own. What a player.

[ManHOOS]

click this PCB clears Sohail Tanvir for NZ tour - News - Cricket Next

[pakimaniac]

PCB is ****ed in the head, this is same intikhab alam who said after last year tour that these palyers are mentally retarted and now is managing them again!!!!! why would anyone with any sort of moral ethic make him the manager or why do players accept him as a manager. He is never out of pcb, no matter who the chairman is, he is there either as a manager or coach. Jahaz butt is dozed off somewhere with money stuck up his a s s, and all the selectors are dummies they have select who ever is has more political influence or paisa influence. this is harsh reality of pakistani cricket, no matter what we do its not gonna bother them.

Unfortunately PCB is also run like pakistani government filled with corruption and dictatorship.

[Sixer]

Azhar Mahmood haha, anyone see him on Sky?

[ALbIe]

at least sohail tanvir is back in the squad to ease the pressure on razzaq

[ALbIe]

another 50 by mansoor amjad for lowly Sialkot.he is performing well and handling the captain's responsibilities.

[shahrukh619]

Amjad alllll the wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Rizzy]

At the moment I see Wahab as a better batsman compared to Tanvir. Sure Tanvir has a century in first class cricket but internationally I cant remember an innings in which he scored alot of runs and his only batting that i can remember is 2007 T20 world cup final in which he hit a couple of sixes at the end to keep us in the game.

[shahrukh619]

Originally Posted by rizzy

At the moment I see Wahab as a better batsman compared to Tanvir. Sure Tanvir has a century in first class cricket but internationally I cant remember an innings in which he scored alot of runs and his only batting that i can remember is 2007 T20 world cup final in which he hit a couple of sixes at the end to keep us in the game.

ur rite tanvir can't bat, he is more like umar gul, he can only hit at the legside.

But just to remind u that wahab made 30 runs in a very small ground, even akthar hit a six there.

[Bilal123]

We have quiet a few all rounders really. Afridi, Razzaq, Hafeez and Wahab. They're not the best but if they play 80% of their potential then we'd win much more than we lose

[Bilal123]

Originally Posted by shahrukh619

ur rite tanvir can't bat, he is more like umar gul, he can only hit at the legside.

But just to remind u that wahab made 30 runs in a very small ground, even akthar hit a six there.

I think you have forgotten his performances against SA in the UAE recently. He batted pretty well there. Averaged like 30ish with bat

[shahrukh619]

Originally Posted by Bilal123

I think you have forgotten his performances against SA in the UAE recently. He batted pretty well there. Averaged like 30ish with bat

sohail tanvir only hits the ball in one place, the leg side, yes he can hit a six easily there, but that does not make hima batsman or an allrounder, rite now he should only concetrate on his bowling, he can start concetrating on batting later on.

[Pak Fan]

We don't need another all-rounder!!! What we need is a quality fast-bowler. Our team is already packed with all-rounders. They all bowl pretty badly too, therefore we need a good, pure bowler, not an explosive batsmen who can bowl a bit. What we need is an Akhter, or an Aamer. Otherwise, our chances of winning look slim.

[ALbIe]

pak fan how can you say that wahab has no pace or swing?you surely are talking a load of rubbish